Below is the request from the 2014 Ancestry message board:
I am a direct descendant of Richard Wade Skaggs (married to Elizabeth and then Nancy Underwood) and have been looking for information on his origins for a long time. I would be grateful if anybody could provide more info about where this Richard Wade Skaggs came from or where the Richard Wade and Mary Skaggs mentioned below that I am speculating could possibly be his parents came from. Thanks!
Relevant facts about Richard Wade Skaggs:
According to an indenture made October 4th, 1841, Richard Wade Skaggs turned 14 in March 1841 (birth year would be 1827).
In the 1850 Census of Green County, Kentucky, Richard Wade Skaggs is listed as a laborer living with Stephen and Sarah Skaggs. He is listed as being 21 years old and born in Louisiana. (birth year would be ~1829)
In the 1860 Census of Taylor County, Kentucky, Richard Wade Skaggs is listed as being 27 years old and born in Kentucky. (birth year would be ~1833
In the 1870 Census of Taylor County, Kentucky, Richard Wade Skaggs is listed as being 44 yeasr old and born in Louisiana. (birth year would be ~1826)
In the 1880 Census of Larue County, Kentucky, Richard Wade Skaggs is listed as being 52 years old and born in Kentucky. (birth year would be ~1828)
In the 1900 Census of Larue County, Kentucky, Richard Wade Skaggs is listed as being 74 years old and born in Kentucky. (birth year would be ~1826)
In the 1910 Census of Buffalo, Larue County, Kentucky he is listed as being 84 years old and born in Louisiana. (birth year would be ~1826)
The death certificate of Richard Wade Skaggs lists his birth date as March 15, 1825 (his tombstone says March 15, 1824). His mother is listed as "Nannie Skaggs" and his father is listed as "Not Known". His birth place, and the birth place of both parents is listed as "Kentucky". The informant on the death certificate is James Skaggs (presumably his son James).---Relevant facts about Richard Wade and Mary Skaggs:A Richard Wade married to a Mary Skaggs was mentioned in a lawsuit in 1836 as follows:
Green co., Ky., Order Books: Sept. 2, l836, John Skaggs vs. Jeremiah Skaggs. This day came the complainants by his counsel and filed his bill herein and on his motion and its appearing to the satisfaction of the courts that Jeremaih Skaggs, Richard Wade & Mary his wife formerly Skaggs, Wm. Graham and Sally his wife formerly Skaggs, Stephen Skaggs, James Skaggs, Nancy Skaggs, Elizabeth Skaggs, Jeremiah Skaggs, James Skaggs, John Pearce & Letta his wife, Henry Skaggs, James Skaggs, John Patterson and Jane his wife, John Jackson and Elizabeth his wife are not inhabitants of this Commonwealth. It is therefore ordered by the court that unless the sd. non resident defendants to appear here on or before the lst day of Dec. term next and file their answer to the complainants bill that said bill will be taken against them as confessed and the prayer thereof decreed accordingly.
Then John also sues William Skaggs & the same people are listed.---
A Richard Wade and Mary Ann Skaggs are found in Louisiana as early as 1812 (I'm just speculating at this point that these may be the same individuals mentioned above):
Maritime Commerce and the Founding of Wadesboro, Tangipahoa Parish, & St. Helena Parish, LouisianaHISTORIC PONCHATOULAMaritime Commerce and the Founding of WadesboroBy JIM PERRINSpecial to The Times(Part Two In A Series)...On the Ponchatoula River early settler Richard Wade had established a location sometimes called Ponchatoula Landing, but usually referred to as Wade's Landing. Richard Wade and his wife Mary Ann Skaggs (Scuggs, Skeggs) settled in St. Helena Parish by 1812, owning land on the Natalbany River, By 1819, Richard had established his landing on the Ponchatoula River. Wade was a cotton planter and also engaged in commerce at his landing. He was listed as owning 960 acres of land on tax lists in both 1824 and 1826 on the Ponchatoula River in what was then St. Helena Parish. He was also taxed as the owner of a tavern in 1826. In later years he was to lay out a town at his landing and begin the settlement of Wadesborough.---A Richard Wade is listed in the 1820 Census of St. Helena Parish, Louisiana---Richard Wade married Mary Ann Robson on March 13, 1829 in St. Helena parish, Louisiana (not sure what happened to Mary Ann Skaggs).---Richard Wade sold land to a Mary Ann Robertson/Robinson on November 13, 1829 (is this person related to the Mary Ann Robson he married and how?):
Deeds: Richard Wade to Mary Ann Robinson, St. Helena Parish, LAState of LouisianaParish of St. HelenaRichard Wade to Mary Ann Robinson13 November 1829Know all men by these presents that I, Richard Wade of the parish of St. Helena and State of Louisiana, have this day for and in consideration of the sum of fifteen hundred dollars, cash to me in hand paid before the signing of the presents by Mary Ann Robertson of the said parish and State, grant, bargain, sold transferred, and conveyed and by these presents do grant, bargain, sell, transfer and convey unto the said Mary Ann Robinson one half of a section of Land containing three hundred and twenty acres situate lying and being on the Ponchatola [sic] River on the east side of, Known by the name of Wades landing place, bounded on the north by Absolom Traylors land, on the east by lands of Jon Cone?, and on all other sides by vacant Lands. To have and to hold the afore said described premises unto the said Mary Ann Robinson, her heirs, executors, administrators and assigns, and the said Richard Wade for himself, his heirs, executors, administrators and assigns unto the said Mary Ann Robertson, her heirs, and assigns shall and will warrant and forever defend the aforesaid described premises, hereby warranting and defending the aforesaid land from the claim or claims of all and every person or persons whomsoever.Done and passed before me Burlin Childress, parish Judge and ex officio notary public in and for said parish, on this Thirteenth day of November in the Year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty nine in presence of Samuel Rankins, and Edward Gorman, witnesses who signed with me, the said Judge and notary.R. WadeWitnessEdward GormanSamuel RankinBurlin Childress, P. J. ex N. OP.Source: Conveyance Records - St. Helena Parish, Louisiana (FHL Film 0355804-pg.337)---A Richard Waid is listed in the 1830 Census of St. Helena Parish, Louisiana.---Any help in solving the mystery of where these people came form would be greatly
This request for help is loaded full of interesting tidbits for Skaggs research. There are many rabbit holes to go down when tracking down the relationships between the Skaggs in those lawsuits. I've only taken a cursory look at these facts but here's a few things that stand out for me:
- I think the William Skaggs who was sued by John Skaggs in 1836 was William the eldest son of James Skaggs the Long Hunter (Longman), son of James and Rachel Skaggs of Virginia. Perhaps the rest of these Skaggs are descendants of heirs to James the Long Hunter. If so, then I bet dollars to doughnuts that the Mary Ann Skaggs who married Richard Wade was a daughter or grand-daughter of James the Long Hunter since she's obviously being sued.
- Recall that James the Long Hunter disappeared with his neighbor's wife, Leah Carter, in 1793, never to be heard from again. It's a stab in the dark, but perhaps he ran away to Louisiana. It was governed by Spain at the time and Napoleon reacquired it for France in 1800 before it was sold to the United States in 1804 and became a state in 1812. James Skaggs and Leah Carter could have had a hidey-hole down there without anyone noticing amongst the handoffs between Spain, France and the U.S. Anyway, Richard Wade founds the town of Wadesboro along with a Mary Ann Skaggs who appears to have Western Kentucky roots.
- The 1850 census shows a Richard Wade, age 60 born in Louisiana and a Mary Ann Wade, age 63 born in Kentucky..
- Are there two Richard Wades here? Perhaps father and son? There are two marriages and some deeded land as clues.
- This Richard Wade Skaggs ends up back in Green County, KY in 1841 under an indenture. How does he have the last name Skaggs if he is the son of Richard Wade and Mary Ann Skaggs? Is he even their son?
I don't think that Richard Wade Skaggs was the son of Richard Wade. I think he was the orphaned son of a Skaggs who was down in Louisiana in the 1820s near Richard Wade and his wife. Just a guess.
ReplyDeleteNothing would surprise me I been looking into this because he was my husband's Great Grand Father, since the 1970's and still no closer then I was then. I've had lots of people that do Family History, including Ida , who was married to a Skaggs.
DeleteI do know that Richard always said that no one would ever know who his father was, because he was so man to him and his mother.
My husband is a descendent of Joseph Abraham "Old Joe" Meredith and Nancy Melba Skaggs. From what I can see Nancy's father was Charles "Longhunter" Skaggs. Nancy and Joseph's son Joseph Abraham 'Jos T' Merideth who I have noted beside his name 1/4 cherokee (?) married Elizabeth Sanders. They had several children one of them being Polina Meredith my husbands 3rd Great Grandmother. Polina married a Dennison. The Dennisons lived at Powder Mills in Hart County Kentucky. I have a hand drawn map of that area dated 1820. Right below Powder Mills is a star that reads, "Richard Skaggs Tavern." I can email you this file if you like. I am trying to figure out how this Richard Skaggs would be related to the Skaggs we come from. Surely they were related being so close in distance.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the message. FYI, there is a large effort by Skaggs researchers on the FamilySearch website to tie all these Skaggs together with evidence attached. It looks like they have virtually finished the states of California and Texas back to 1850 and many of these Skaggs trace back to western Kentucky. You may want to have a look.
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I was the one who made that post on Ancestry... I don't have any new information but as I know I am a direct descendant of Richard Wade Skaggs on my father's side, I'm wondering if any of the available DNA tests would be useful for narrowing down who he really was? I haven't really looked into DNA testing a great deal and don't know how much Skaggs related DNA info is out there but if one of the available tests would actually be useful in identifying the ancestors of Richard Wade Skaggs I would be willing to do it.
ReplyDeleteI sent you an email. You may want to join the Skaggs DNA project. If you're up for it, contact administrator Chris Keig about which Y-DNA test to take:
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No DNA test yet but I'll get around to it. In the mean time, I put some things in timeline order and added a few tidbits I found in an article about the history of Wadesboro. Some interesting stuff but nothing that conclusively answers any questions:
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1812 Richard Wade and Mary Ann Skaggs settle what would become Wade's Landing & Wadesborough in St. Helena Parish, LA
1824/5-03-15 Richard Wade Skaggs born (in Louisiana?) (based on tombstone/death certificate/census data & indenture birth year could be anywhere 1824-1833)
(assumption, Richard Wade and Mary Ann Skaggs are the parents of Richard Wade Skaggs)
(assumption, Mary Ann Skaggs and Richard Wade Skaggs returned to KY sometime between 1824 and 1829...maybe Mary and Richard divorced or were never formally married. Or Mary and Richard Wade Skaggs could have stayed in LA for a while before returning to KY closer to 1841)
1829-03-13 Richard Wade married Mary Ann Robson
(assumption, this is just a different Mary Ann that the same Richard Wade married. Seems unlikely but I can't think of anything else that makes sense.)
1829-11-13 Richard Wade sold half of land to Mary Ann Robertson/Robinson
(Assuming this is the same Richard Wade as the land sold was part of Wade's Landing)
(assumption, Mary Ann Robertson/Robinson/Robson are really the same person...but why would you sell half your land to your wife, under her maiden name, if so? Is there a tax or legal reason why this might be done? Did Richard fear Mary Ann Skaggs would lay claim to the land? Would this have even protected him? Or maybe there are two Mary Anns here as well? Maybe mother and daughter?)
1836-09-02 Richard Wade and Mary (formerly) Skaggs named in lawsuit in KY
1837 Richard Wade and his wife (which one?) sold 520 acres at "Ponchatoula Landing"
1841-10-04 Richard Wade Skaggs first shows up in KY via indenture as a young man somewhere between 14-17 years old
<1846 Wadesboro founded by Richard Wade and his wife(?)
1850 Richard Wade Skaggs listed in census as laborer living with Stephen and Sarah Skaggs in Green County, KY
(assumption, Richard Wade Skaggs is related to Stephen Skaggs somehow through his mother)
On his death certificate (filled out by one of his sons), his father is listed as "Unknown" and his mother is listed as "Nannie Skaggs".
(assumption, "Nannie" is just what her grandson called her and he didn't know (or want to use?) her real name.
There could be some combination of multiple Richard Wades and Mary Ann Rs but to me that seems even more unlikely.
There was an interesting multi-part article about the history of Wadesboro in the early 2019 issues of The Ponchatoula Times that contains further nuggets of info. It makes no reference to a Richard Wade Skaggs and it refers to Mary Ann throughout as if Richard Wade were married to the same person all his life. However, there are some conflicting dates/ages.
Early in the article:
"Mr. Wade, who was born about 1780 in Louisiana, and Mary Ann, who was born about 1787 in Kentucky, owned 960 acres..."
Later in the article:
"...Richard Wade, now in 1850, sixty years old and his wife Mary Ann who was sixty-three"
If not a mistake then a clue that this was really two different Mary Anns...
Wadesboro article in order:
http://ptl.stparchive.com/Archive/PTL/PTL01242019p01.php
http://ptl.stparchive.com/Archive/PTL/PTL01242019p03.php
http://ptl.stparchive.com/Archive/PTL/PTL01312019P01.php
http://ptl.stparchive.com/Archive/PTL/PTL01312019P04.php